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1. jakob (jakob@soc.schuerz.at)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:27 CET jakob

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   • Peter Vágner
   • hamiller_friendica
   @pvagner
   How i understood federation, messages are not fetched, they are delivered.
   
   So... if a message on mastodon ist "not listed", is it delivered or not? That's the question, i think.
   
   @utzer @hamiller_friendica
   • utzer [Friendica] (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:27 CET utzer [Friendica]

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     • Peter Vágner
     • hamiller_friendica
     @jakob in the past Friendica did fetch messages too, maybe that changed?
     @pvagner @hamiller_friendica
   • jakob (jakob@soc.schuerz.at)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:27 CET jakob

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     • Michael Vogel
     • Peter Vágner
     • hamiller_friendica
     @utzer @pvagner @hamiller_friendica
     
     Friendica fetched missing messages? Really?
     
     I thought, @heluecht thought about a possibility, to fetch them... but it is not realized till now.
     
     Maybe it fetches frirndica-threads via dfrn-protocol... 🤷♂️
   • Peter Vágner (pvagner@fedi.ml)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:30 CET Peter Vágner

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     • utzer [Friendica]
     • hamiller_friendica
     @utzer @jakob @hamiller_friendica I understand unlisted as don't show on the timeline unless expanding the thread not don't fetch.
   • jakob (jakob@soc.schuerz.at)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:31 CET jakob

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     • utzer [Friendica]
     • hamiller_friendica
     @hamiller_friendica @utzer
     
     I think, mastodonies tend to answer unlisted, because they get annoyed about every comment gets boosted...
     
     And they do not realize, they are missing parts of threads they are in...
     
     Had this discussion in my friendica-groups, because mastodonies are annoyed getting updates on every single answer...
     
     Mastodon is annoying.
     
     😩😩😩
   • utzer [Friendica] (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:31 CET utzer [Friendica]

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     • hamiller_friendica
     @jakob ahh
     c) Mastodon users break the capability of the Fediverse by posting unlisted.
     
     I wonder if unlisted must be treated as "do not load the whole thread from remote"... I guess, I assume that is the whole intention.
     
     So I always have to remember to manually go to remote, look at the thread, copy and search for the interesting remote replies to be able to reply to those or reference to those replies?
     
     This feels strange. Really.
     
     So the original post gets lots of double replies because of different users giving the same reply multiple times.
     
     @hamiller_friendica
   • hamiller_friendica (hamiller_friendica@anonsys.net)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:36 CET hamiller_friendica

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     • utzer [Friendica]
     @utzer On the original thread, many answers are posted "unlisted". Possibly these are the ones that are missing.
   • utzer [Friendica] (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:00:37 CET utzer [Friendica]

     • Friendica Support
     Hello
     When did #Friendica stop to complete threads I interact with? How can I activate it again?
   • hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 23:06:54 CET hypolite

     • Michael Vogel
     • Peter Vágner
     • hamiller_friendica
     @heluecht @jakob @pvagner @hamiller_friendica In what circumstances? I know about fetching the parent when we receive a comment on a conversation we don't have the ascendants, and the direct search on a post URL. Anything else?