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  1. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2017 13:19:26 CEST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
    • stig atle
    @kxxvii By actual issues I mean things like the nation's election methods, educational strategies, etc. which are not problems caused by the nation's primary religion (though of course affected, re: intelligent design). And of course friggin' capitalism.
    cc: @stigatle
    In conversation Wednesday, 24-May-2017 13:19:26 CEST from social.umeahackerspace.se permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2017 10:08:12 CEST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
      • stig atle
      afaik at least anything at a relevant scale in the nordic countries has actually been entirely unrelated to islam, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get across here.

      Well ok, Breivik wasn't unrelated to islam, it was essentially caused because of his unproportional fear of a pretty lame, irrational religion.
      In conversation Wednesday, 24-May-2017 10:08:12 CEST permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2017 11:04:50 CEST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
      • stig atle
      @stigatle I know you're openly anti-religious in general and that you are not specifically biased towards islamists. .)

      But if we're going to shame the religion everytime something happens we:

      1. have to find out which religion (and preferrably which sect within that belief system and then which chapter of that sect... or we're just generalising). This takes focus away from the actual issues.

      2. have to start calling all American attacks for "christian extremism".

      Point no. 2 I think makes it easy to see that labeling something as caused by the belief in a certain fictional story figure is a just an over-simplification.

      I think very few would say that the US foreign politics is "because of christianity" (we know there are religiously unrelated issues at hand). But at the same time many would say other/specific religions are a major cause for problems in other parts of the world. Not very consistent if you ask me!
      In conversation Wednesday, 24-May-2017 11:04:50 CEST permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2017 13:19:45 CEST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
      in reply to
      (or lack thereof, re: election methods)
      In conversation Wednesday, 24-May-2017 13:19:45 CEST permalink

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