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Delta Chat sounds quite interesting. Until now I didn't tried it because I use email really extensive with a lot of folders, gpg encryption, etc. and I'm not sure what happens with all my mails and folders when Delta Chat accesses my mailbox. Also I wonder what happens with the chat messages? Will they spam my Inbox? For encryption it would be good if I could import my exiting gpg key... Does someone has already tried Delta Chat? https://delta.chat
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@xor du hast also deine email clients und die ganze serverseitige Software welche deine Mails verwaltet selber geschrieben? Respekt!
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@anton on mobile devices I use k9mail and on the desktop/laptop claws-mail
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@xor vielleicht verstehe ich dich auch falsch, aber ich sehe den Unterschied nicht. Sendmail, Thunderbird und Delta Chat sind alles Freie Software nicht von dir geschrieben, also von Drittanbietern. Wieso hast du kein Problem damit Sendmail und Thunderbird auf deine Mails los zu lassen, bei Delta Chat aber bedenken?
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@muto regarding encryption they plan to implement something GnuPG compatible but want to generate a key pair automatically. I think reusing GnuPG makes a lot of sense. This way you can also decrypt the mails outside of Delta Chat. Personally I don't have a problem storing my private key on my smart phone. It probably depends on your attack vector. My position on this is: if someone want to get me I don't have a chance anyway. In the first place I want to protect against general surveillance. Why Delta Chat? I like the idea that I don't have to convince anyone to use any specific messenger. Everybody has a email address so I can write instantly with everyone. No matter if they use Delta Chat or not. For me Delta Chat is basically a fancy mail client which provides easy to use chat experience on mobile while nobody needs to get a new account or chat app for it.
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@xor hier gibt's den source code: https://github.com/r10s/deltachat-android
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@muto regarding the storage of the delta mails. I wonder how this works if a separate chat folder is used. As soon as you also write with people who don't use Delta Chat you have to expect that mails will arrive in my Inbox or any subfolder depending on my server-side filtering. I assume that Delta Chat monitors all folders. I see how it can detect mails send by Delta Chat, e.g. by a specific header, and move it to the chats folder. But how should this work with chats where one or more participant uses a normal mail client?
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@xor weiß nicht, habe den link aus f-droid ;)
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@muto I have to say that I'm not a fan of fefe's conspiracy theories which often come with not that much arguments. OpenKeychain argues much more serious, whether you agree at the end or not: https://www.openkeychain.org/faq/#are-my-secret-keys-safe-on-my-mobile-device
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@benediktg danke, d.h das jeder thread egal auf welchem Ordnung (von privaten Mails über Mailinglisten bis hin zu Github notification und Spam) als separater Chat dargestellt werden? Hört sich so an, als ob das dann ziemlich schnell ziemlich unübersichtlich wird... Denke eine Einschränkung auf bestimmte Ordner oder evtl nur threads mit bekannten email Adressen würde Sinn machen. Aber ich glaube ich probiere es einfach mal aus. Hört sich ja so an, als ob ich mir zumindest um meine Mails keine sorge machen muss. :)
Björn Schießle
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